Has anyone ever used Elavil for esophageal spasms [severe] along with severe hiatal hernia and re?
Question posted by Rosemarie57 on 17 April 2012
Last updated on 21 September 2021 by Buttercup2
Also have reflux from both the esophogus and hiatal hernia. Has been about 3 years and is continuing to get worse. Spasms cause my throat to close and is nick named "nutcracker disease."
This has been a drug recommened instead of surgery to try first. I need to know the pros and cons on this medicine. Especially for my condition.Have tried every other stomach med. with no help from any other meds, other than pain meds. But this can not be a way of life on pain meds. I do not want to take mood altering drugs.
Hello. I too have suffered severely with esophageal spasms off and on since 2012. I was diagnosed with a hernia in my upper stomach. I have been on protonix now for over 6 years, as well as Carafate, and omneprozole. Last week my dr added nitro (0.4 mg). The first two episodes it stopped these horrible spasms. The third time it did not help at all. In fact I had to take a second one with 15 min. And still no relief. This horrible spasm lasted from 4 pm until after 6 am the morning.
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Lizbeth11
26 Sep 2016
My brother had esophageal spasms and is doing quite well after he had a Botox injection.
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Mareebyrne
7 Oct 2016
Hi there Lizbeth11... My hubby has had the Botox also ,and found it to be be great,well,for around 8 or so months anyway,we have tried every other conceivable treatment,for his swallowing and throwing up after every mouthful of food,we are just about to have his 2 nd Botox needle into the throat area,I don't know where you are situated,but here in Australia it's NOT passed on the PBA ,and we need to pay $550 out of pocket every time,not that it matters if it indeed helps him,and it seems to ,has your brother had to pay also ? ( not sure where or what country you live in ) Glad your bro is getting results
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SGS
7 Jan 2014
No, I've not used Elavil. I have suffered from esophageal spasms for over 5 years. The last one was the worst. I thought I was having a heart attack. Not only was the pain in my chest horrific, but the pain went up my neck into my jaw. I became so white and was sweating all over, that my husband called 911. I was taken to the hospital, with everyone thinking I was having a heart attack. After spending the night there and a few tests, it was diagnosed as a severe esophageal spasm. The point of my story is that the attending nurse said she had the same experience and her doctor told her that when she felt a spasm coming on to start drinking very quickly the hottest water you can stand. From that day forward, I started doing exactly that and it has stopped the spasm dead in it's tracks. It's worth giving it a try and I hope it works for you.
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cheekie
18 April 2012
Hey I too have a hiatal hernai and gruds, i take nexium, but i take it at night, it is at night that most of the acids sit in our gut because we are not moving, the breathing seems harder because the acid makes us also feel very full, when I started having really bad chest pains, and they would go all the way around my back the dr thought i was crazy, finally when i thought i was having a heart attack i went to the hospital, they found out it was my gall bladder, removed it, and the problems are now so much better, still have some spasms sometimes, but a heating pad on them help alot, seems to let the blood flow better and reduces the spasms and the pain that comes with them. the nexium work great can eat without that feeling of the food or water getting stuck halfway and not wanting to go down. so try taking the meds at night, it might help
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AquariusAnneCA
17 April 2012
Hi Rosemarie57 I am not sure what your spasms are like but I think I have had the same and the doctors had no idea why... I was on Omeprazole for the GERD problems such as Acid Reflux, Hiatal Hernia, etc. I experienced pain in my chest, arms and back and I have had HPylori also so I have had it all and once I started with the omeprazole, all of this ended and that was approximately 10 years ago when I first went on the meds for the HPylori... it was a wonder drug for me... then I began to have shortness of breath, spasms in my throat, UTI problems, bad coughing, and muscle weakness. I also had lung problems and the CatScan showed a "shattered glass look" in my lungs so I was on Prednisone for a year... all kinds of tests for allergy sent to John Hopkins and all negative and doctor did not know why I had this. I decided on my own to get off the omeprazole as I was so nauseated in the morning when I woke up...
when I got off the omeprazole, all the above problems disappeared so my point is this, if your doctor is in agreement and you can deal with it, try going off any PPI's (if you are on them) to see if this is causing the spasms. My spasms and all other problems I had disappeared BUT the acid reflux is very very bad!!! I am now trying Zantac#150 two times a day but I fear that the shortness of breath is coming back. My doctor has suggested surgery!!! Yucka... I fear the surgery. There is a new type surgery coming soon where metal beads are placed in the esophagus area to keep it open... I will wait for some results on this. Good luck to you, Rosemarie as I know how you feel. Anne
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endlessPred
18 April 2012
Are you seeing a Pulmonologist? What you are describing sounds like what I have, interstitial lung disease. The pattern in the X-ray is like that for me. My Pulmonologist says the reflux at night causes me to inhale fine mist of stomach acid, food etc. the acid damages the lungs, and one continues to worsen. a dry cough is part of this. Not saying it is what you have, but this should be treated right away to protect those lungs as you are showing scaring already. I am taking ranitidine (Zantac) to reduce the reflux. It is working well. The reflux also can damage the esophagus and the bronchial tubes. This is serious stuff. Being on oxygen is not fun. It is the lung scaring that is the issue.
If you happen to smoke, please stop. If you ever have smoked be sure they know. I never have but he said it would make it far worse. Although my lung disease stems from my main disease, the reflux was making it worse. It was the Pulmonologist who diagnosed this as he was aware this could contribute. As I see specialists, they pick up on different things.
The spasms for me were due to stress fom the reflux. May not be your answer but maybe it is. My vocal chords were vibrating 9 times per second. Might as well been a humming bird in there.
thought you should know. Perhaps this will help and get you the proper treatment.
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endlessPred
17 April 2012
Hello. Please check with your ear nose throat doc and see if they recommend Botox injections. I had that done because my vocal chords and throat we're spasming at an incredibly high rate. Side effect of my disease. Cleared it up and rather than the three months they thought it would work, it has been over a year and the symptoms are just coming back. This was done at a medical school hospital so docs may not know of it elsewhere. Not a big deal and no worse than getting a shot. Perhaps some form of this will help.
I tend to be open to any type of treatment since dealing with a part of the body doesn't address the whole body. Sure wish they were working on that magic pill... lol
my husband has had chronic swallowing problems for years now,to the point he has had his Esophugus stretched a few times now,in hospital ,and it did help for a short time,he also takes a Nexium tablets 30 minutes before a meal each night,but then he got to the stage a couple of years ago now where,every single thing he ate,he brought straight up again,So the last resort was a BOTOX injection into the throat area in hospital in day surgery,now sadly it isn't passed by the government ,so we had to pay $550 out of pocket for it,it however,did seem to rid him of the vomiting after each meal for around maybe 8 months or so,we are just about to have another one shortly,it does irritate me that it is funded by the Goverment for things like migraine headaches ,and I just read that now it is covered for incontinence now Also,and yet,I feel his swallowing is a life threatening thing,and the vomiting every single time something passes in his mouth,and yet ,we,aged pensioners ,need to fork out $550 every few months for BOTOX,but yes,it did help tremendously ... Prior to Botox,we have tried every possible thing ,including ,as I say, the stretching several times,but he cannot have that anymore I believe ,in fear of the Esophugus eventually losing its elasticity ... it's just awful,,, I feel so sorry for him
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Inactive
17 April 2012
I also have GERD really bad & apparently will always be on a proton pump inhibitor like omeprazole. I still get some spasams too, but I use nitro stat for these at .03 miliigrams. I get a slight headache, but it really does the job. A liver specialist had me start using this. I thought several times I was having a heart attack when these horrible spasms start. I sip on room tempature water for few minutes, & if that doesn't work, I use the nitrostat. works for me! I also have a hiatal hernia that way back when caused me terrific problems, but opted not to have it surgically fixed. If you have all this, it helps to raise the head of your bed at night too by putting 8 inch blocks under the top feet of the bed. Keeps all the acid down in the stomach where it belongs. In my case I just produce too much acid. Good luck to you, & welcome to the site... Mary
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Inactive
17 April 2012
Dear Rosemarie, thank you for supplying the nickname for these spasms, I have them and have tried to describe the, to my dr, had no idea it had a nick name. I take have taken the generic for elavil off and on for years, not for the spasms, but for fibromyalgia wnd have always been on a low dose when I took it. The only side effects I have ever had with it was being thirsty in the night when I was trying to sleep, so, I would keep a drink on my bedside table. I am very very sensitive to antidepressants and this is THE only one I can take and not get really amped up and antsy. It is considered a mood elevator, but. To me, is more tolerable than most antidepressants. It got rid of my nearly constant headache almost immediately and has also helped when I got paresthesia( partial numbness) after a shot of novocaine during a dental procedure.
10 or 25 mgs would be considered a low dose and if you did try it, it likely would not produce many side effects on a low dose and may work. I also have GERD and am waiting to see a gastro dr at the end of the month to check for hiatal hernia and ulcer. The elavil is sometimes also given to people who have neuropathy, nerve pain. My understanding of why the spasms occur is acid irritating the esophagus and throat tissue, the irritated nerves are stimulating the muscles to spasm. The elavil may help work on the nerves, to keep them calm, and therefore it could help the muscle spasms. I can't swear it I'll help, but it does help with some of the odd problems that other meds on't help with and you probably would not feel it acts like othe antidepressants. It also will help you alot with sleep. When I have these spasms, I drink something immediately and that is the only thing that calms it down quickly. I also have been given the generic of flexeril for this, it helps alot too. Thank you for your info, now I know what to tell the gasto guy when I talk to him. Patti
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Inactive
17 April 2012
Now that you have supplied me with the name, I looked it up in Wikipedia.org and it has a pretty good article on it. You might want to read it, it also mentions trazadone as a possible treatment.
