I am now looking into asking my doctor if I can try Ambien at bedtime to treat my insomnia. I want positive feedback from anyone who has taken it and did it help for staying asleep?
My chronic insomnia is back.
Question posted by TyreseTl on 16 March 2021
Last updated on 3 June 2021
I am taking Remeron before bedtime, I sometimes add 50mg of Hydroxyzine. Both help falling asleep and staying asleep but 2 days I am unable to stay asleep. Im only sleeping for 2-4 hours at nighttime now.
Added 16 March 2021:2 days ago*
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Hi Tyrese,
How long have you had it?
How much does it interfere with your lifestyle?
Do you have contributing factors for a sleep Disorder like snoring, being overweight, having High BP or waking up like you never slept, not being able to concentrate or remember, etc etc
Insomnia is dangerous to your health! Plus people don't want to hear you complain because they feel helpless.
You need a sleep study! I've learned after 10 years:
I developed high BP.
I was 20 lbs overweight and couldn't lose.
I still have my tonsils. Which lead to sleep obstruction.
I spent my life as a shift worker.
I didn't have good sleep hygiene.
I had babies at age 40 and you know you are sleep deprived!
I was on call 24/7 days a Week.
I had nerve damage from a routine blood test. It started a complex pain syndrome.
All of a sudden I couldn't get tired, much less sleep. My brain wouldn't turn off!
Several years went by and I could tell my immune system was taking a hit.
Sleep Heals! It is not just torture but as much. as a need for food.
My emotions were off key and I started to lose my decision making skills. I was no longer happy or participating in life.
I finally broke down in the doc office. She knew how hard I worked and I was sleeping 3 hours at most.
She gave me Restoril which didn't work.
I asked for Ambien which they don't like to do.
I was finally sleeping! I was ecstatic until realized I never had a dream so I didn't feel well rested - ever. Physically I had people tell me I looked tired.
I had to take it nightly or I wouldn't sleep. You become tolerant so you start losing sleep again. I was a Zombie even with the Ambien.
I got all the auto-immune disorders and cancer. I just knew my body could no longer heal itself.
I was given Seroquel in addition but had dangerous cardiac effects.
Remeron too. I ended up in the ER with a heart rate over 180 and very low BP.
I was falling during the night and fractured my ankle.
I was so tired I couldn't even talk rationally.
At this point I was sleeping 3-4 hours every 3 days. My kids told me I was crying in my sleep.
This is what happens over the years.
I was angry with every ok me because they were all snoring. I was even angry at the dogs!
If I were you, I'd investigate all of the good sleep hygiene techniques.
Get enough exercise during the day.
Don't eat close to bedtime, etc.
The sleep apps are helpful if you do them religiously.
If you still have insomnia, go have a sleep study.
I had Central sleep apnea. I ended up with a BiPap machine and oxygen for night use.
What really saved me?
Ambien 10 mg plus trazodone at night.
It allowed me to dream and I no longer have issues becoming tolerant.
What a difference!
I am participating in life again!
Don't let it become chronic because it's harder to fix.
Be well, my friend
:-)
Hello,
I appreciate your comment. But I had chronic insomnia before the pandemic hit. So approximately a year now since I have trouble sleeping. I am 19 years old and I eat healthy. Therefore, I’m not overweight(136 lbs) and my blood pressure is usually 112-115. But I do have some days when it’s hard to remember stuff. There are many options of insomnia medication I haven’t tried as yet, so I am going to work with my doctor to find the right medication.
Have you tried Seroquel off label use for insomnia at a low dose of 50mgs.?
If you have not tried it, I suggest you ask your Dr. about it.
No I have not tried Seroquel. I was prescribe Remeron off label for insomnia(15mg). It worked well but it’s slowly losing effectiveness. I will ask my doctor in my upcoming appointment. I just want my sleep back :(.
Thanks, masso.
Tyrese
We all know we react differently to medications. I too suffer from insomnia, chronic, and I strongly advice you try Seroquel (quetiapine) before Ambien.
Ok I will.
How quickly does Seroquel work; meaning the peak plasma time?
Pretty much straight away in most people.
Understood, thanks I will ask my doctor.
Best of luck!
How many hours did you sleep last night?
Hey, masso. Thanks for checking in on me. But I slept up to 3am this morning. So my guess is 4-5 hours of sleep.
Not enough. I have had insomnia ever since I was in my teens, it comes and goes, but it is always there.
I am going to do my best to find the right medication to treat my insomnia.
You will get there!!!
Yes, thank you for your support. I appreciate it so much.
I hope that I do not offend anyone, but seriquil ( sorry about the miss spelling) is a drug of harm, besides the extreme weight gain,, being an antipsychotic you will get other side effects. It's a forever fight to lose the weight. I hope someone has other meds to suggest. Best of luck
No offense taken, you have the right to give your point of view, I respect that, and you are right.
I have been on Seroquel (Quetiapine) for 20 plus years. I take it because I am bipolar, that is the main reason, I also suffer from insomnia and, personally, it has changed my life back. I take 400 mgs., but, I eat a hypocaloric diet and I do spinning everyday 90 minutes (I have a bike at home) and have not gained weight, of course if I had a poor diet and did not exercise I would most likely be overweight.
Now if Seroquel is used off label for insomnia/sleep disorders at a low dose, 50mgs. to 100 mgs., I believe it would not be a problem, of course everyone reacts differently to medications.
Hey, bugg. I appreciate your feedback. But I am aware of most medications that blocks histamine “may” cause weight gain. Also, low doses of Seroquel (25-100mg) is the typical dose for insomnia. Therefore, it shouldn’t cause much weight gain.
Hey, masso. What are your thoughts about Silenor? I did many research on Ambien and found out that it’s not effective for staying asleep. So I am not going bother taking it. I can fall asleep quickly but the main problem is staying asleep. However, I found out that Silenor is effective for staying asleep, so what are you thoughts about it?
It sounds promising, sedation and somnolence are common side effects and you have problems staying asleep. Most commonly tricyclic antidepressants are used for sleep disorders and usually Drs. prescribe more Amitriptyline for insomnia, so yes, as I mentioned, it sounds promising, I will not tell you to check out risks, potential side effects and interactions because you probably have done so by now.
Give it a go, you have nothing to lose and I truly wish for it to work for you.
Initially you wanted success stories for Ambien, I avoided giving you positive advice , but Ambien is weak, I have been on it and it just did not do it for me, that is why I went for Seroquel, both of us and mainly everyone is aware we react differently to medications, but when it comes to insomnia, one tends to get desperate, as time goes by and one has tried and tried and researched for a medication or cocktail that will put you to sleep at least 7 hours straight, sleep depravation is used as torture, so you have all my empathy and best wishes.
Thank you so much.
You are welcome.
I forgot to mention. I just received my referral from my doctor and it appears that my levels of alkaline phosphate is elevated (191). It also says that my liver and kidney enzymes WNL. What does WNL stand for?
Maybe the high alkaline phosphate is what’s causing my poor appetite and abdominal bloating. My doctor recommended a gastroenterologist. Now, I have no idea what’s going to happen. In the meantime, is there a way I can lower my levels?
WNL means within normal limits.
"Some good options include milk thistle, NAC, taurine, B vitamins, and vitamin C. Additionally, get enough sun, exercise, omega-3 fatty acids, and coffee. Reduce alcohol and stop smoking — they both lower alkaline phosphatase levels and support good health."
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Okay, thanks I will.
Hey, masso. I got back from my doctors appointment an hour ago and he decided to up my Remeron to 30mg. I specifically told him that the 15mg has no sedative effect anymore and he also refused to prescribe doxepin. My insomnia is getting worse day by day. :(
yes, I believe 30mgs. will most likely help you, watch out for potential side effects, not being negative but realistic. I truly empathize with you, my insomnia is stronger than ever I get 2 hours of sleep!!!
Okay, I will take the 30mg. I’m getting my prescription tomorrow at 1pm, so I’ll keep you updated.
Insomnia is the worst.
Tyrese
Yes, let me know how it goes... best of luck!
Kind regards, masso
Hey, I hope you get a good nights sleep. Let me now.
Thanks for checking on me. I have my fingers crossed. ;)
Unfortunately, the extra dose did nothing :(. I woke up at 3am. But I did fall asleep within 30-45 minutes and woke up at 5am.
What a nightmare, perhaps you need more time to adjust to the new dose, hopefully that is it.
Take care and try not to sleep during the day, masso
Yes. I will give it at least a week or 2.
hope you are well.
Have you been able to sleep?
Hey, masso. My sleep is improving. I’ve been doing self care these past weeks. Such as: walking at least 9,000-10,000 steps a day and spend 10-30 mins in sunlight. It’s rainy here in NY, so barely any sun. I have been reading Dr Matthew Walker tips to improve sleep. I am feeling much better. I still wake up around 3am but fall back to sleep immediately. I believe my circadian rhythm was a bit whack, since I spent most of my time indoors but now I am planning on talking walkings everyday this month.
Ps. Thanks again for checking in on me.
Oops... Taking walks*
I am glad you are getting sleep, exercising and in good health.
Hey, Masso... My sleep is improving drastically. I recently successfully wean myself off from 30mg Remeron. Unfortunately, cause GI disorders; constipation. I’ve been drinking tart cherry juice and it’s improving my sleep. but I have a question... My sleep environment is sorta wack- meaning my mattress is causing back pain which is interrupting my sleep. Maybe my mattress is the cause of my insomnia? Because whenever I am up, I usually toss and turn a lot making it difficult to fall back asleep and also I don’t get up to urinate anymore (which is good before I was using the bathroom at least 1-2 times a night). I just ordered a more comfortable and softer mattress. I am hoping it helps a lot.
That's great, everything helps.
One thinks is one thing , when there are so many which can affect oneself.
I am also sleeping better take my medications around 2200 hundred hours wake up everyday at 4: 35 a.m., which for me is wonderful and at 5:30 a.m., on my bike spinning.
Where I am though, we have been on lock-down for 5 weeks either you eat or workout.
Take care and yes, a good comfortable mattress I believe it will help.
Hey Masso!!
I’ve tried other sleep aids. But, unfortunately they don’t work. Also, my insurance won’t approve any TCA’s. Now my psychiatrist recommended me back to my primary care physician, so I can make an appointment to a sleep study. I hope we find a solution :).
What should I expect at the sleep study?
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