... day). Will there be any problem with the general anesthesia? I've been trying to wean down to a lower dose but not to sucsesful with that. When I start the pain meds. will I feel them? As far as pain relief that is
My question is about having surgery while on suboxone. I have been on it for over a year. (6 mgs. a
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Sorry to say this but, No, pain meds will not work while you are on suboxone. You need to let the Doctor prescribing the suboxone know you need surgery and get them in concert with the surgeon and the Anesthesiologist(sorry about the spelling) so they can work something out. The person who puts you to sleep needs to figure out how to safely put you to sleep on suboxone. Call the Suboxone doc today so you won't have to scramble around and do this last minute. You may have to have a higher dose of Suboxone for your surgery pain. Be prepared to sign a release for the suboxone doctor to release your records to the surgeon and Anes. doctor.
Hi, I have been on suboxone for almost 11months now. Back in April I had a surgery performed where I was not even able to tell any physician I was even on the suboxone b/c it being an emergency operation and quickly done. The surgery was a success, I was put to sleep just had I been if not on the suboxone, was out for the appropriate time and all went well. However as I woke from surgery, that same day I was pain free from all the meds I'm assuming, but as the next day came, even w/ the prescribed pain meds, I had no pain relief what so ever. For a week straight I pretty much just had to suffer from the horrible pain, b/c there was nothing strong enough that I could take that would work do to the suboxone still in my system I'm assuming. My advice to you though, is to always just be completely upfront and honest w/ your doctors about being on suboxone, sadly not many are well educated on the medication and you yourself will have to explain what the suboxone is used for.
From there though the doctors should be able to research and see what the best option is for you to make sure you are comfortable at all times. Good luck and best wishes to you!
I have been on 8 mg. of Suboxone for 3 months and I am having hand surgery so I was looking for answers about taking my medication or discontinuing it temporarily. My prescribing doctor told me it is also used for pain relief and to just continue taking it, but I did not feel that his answer was detailed or informative so I researched it. This is what I found in the latest research on www.naabt.org:
Recommendations for Patients Receiving Maintenance Buprenorphine Therapy
Clinical experience treating acute pain in patients receiving maintenance therapy with buprenorphine is limited. Pain treatment with opioids is complicated by the high affinity of buprenorphine for the receptor. This
high affinity risks displacement of, or competition with full opioid agonist analgesics when buprenorphine is administered concurrently or sequentially. There are several possible approaches for treating acute pain that requires opioid analgesia in the patient receiving buprenorphine
therapy (Table 2). With such limited clinical experience, the following treatment approaches are based on available literature, pharmacologic principles, and published recommendations. The most effective approach will be elucidated with increased clinical experience. In all cases, because of highly variable rates of buprenorphine dissociation
from the receptor, naloxone should be available and level of consciousness and respiration should be frequently monitored.
Treatment options are as follows.
1. Continue buprenorphine maintenance therapy and titrate a short-acting opioid analgesic to effect (90, 98). Because higher doses of full opioid agonist analgesics may be required to compete with buprenorphine at the receptor, caution should be taken if the patient’s buprenorphine
therapy is abruptly discontinued. Increased sensitivity to the full agonist with respect to sedation and respiratory depression could occur.
2. Divide the daily dose of buprenorphine and administer it every 6 to 8 hours to take advantage of its analgesic properties. For example, for buprenorphine at 32 mg daily, the split dose would be 8 mg every 6 hours. The available literature suggests that acute pain can be effectively managed with as little as 0.4 mg of buprenorphine given sublingually
every 8 hours in patients who are opioid naive (47, 99, 100). However, these low doses may not provide effective analgesia in patients with opioid tolerance who are receiving OAT. Therefore, in addition to divided dosing of buprenorphine, effective analgesia may require the use of
additional opioid agonist analgesics (for example, morphine).
3. Discontinue buprenorphine therapy and treat the patient with full scheduled opioid agonist analgesics by titrating to effect to avoid withdrawal and then to achieve analgesia (for example, sustained-release and immediaterelease morphine) (90, 98, 101). With resolution of the
acute pain, discontinue the full opioid agonist analgesic and resume maintenance therapy with buprenorphine, using an induction protocol (98, 102).
4. If the patient is hospitalized with acute pain, his or her baseline opioid requirement can be managed and opioid withdrawal can be prevented by converting buprenorphine to methadone at 30 to 40 mg/d. At this dose, methadone will prevent acute withdrawal in most patients (97) and, unlike buprenorphine, binds less tightly to the receptor. Thus, responses to additional opioid agonist analgesics will be as expected (that is, increasing dose will provide increasing analgesia). If opioid withdrawal persists, subsequent daily methadone doses can be increased in 5- to
10-mg increments (103). This method allows titration of the opioid analgesic for pain control in the absence of opioid withdrawal. When the acute pain resolves, discontinue the therapy with the full opioid agonist analgesic and methadone and resume maintenance therapy with buprenorphine, using an induction protocol (98, 102). If the patient is discharged while full opioid agonist analgesics are still required, then discontinue methadone therapy and treat the patient as stated in the third buprenorphine approach. If buprenorphine therapy needs to be restarted (buprenorphine induction) after acute pain management (that is, the third and fourth approaches), it is important to keep in mind that buprenorphine can precipitate opioid with-drawal. Thus, a patient receiving a full opioid agonist regularly should be in mild opioid withdrawal before restarting
buprenorphine therapy (98, 102).Acute PainManagement for Patients Receiving OAT Perspective www.annals.org 17 January 2006 Annals of Internal Medicine Volume 144 • Number 2 131
This was a long time ago but I'm sure nothing or not much has changed. I'm due for surgery in the near future and even now have a need for narcotic pain medication. What should or what can I do?
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