My mom has stage 4 cirrhosis and continues to drink, how long does she have?
Question posted by Teggers05 on 1 March 2013
Last updated on 16 December 2020 by Flowerr
Hi, my mom is 51 years old and she's been an alcoholic for as long as I can remember and she drinks straight vodka from the bottle 100 proof. She found out in October 2007 that she has stage 4 cirrhosis of the liver and that she needed a transplant.
It's been over 5 yrs since she was diagnosed, and I can't really tell a difference in her physically wise. She looks and acts fine to me. Her eyes have always been kind of yellowish and she has a big belly. Unfortunatly she continues to drink almost daily and I worry about her everyday and night. She also has thyroid issues which has contributed to her liver damage.
I guess I'm just looking for some answers on how long someone can live like this?
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Flowerr
16 Dec 2020
I have the same situation, my mom (50 yo) was diagnosed with stage 2 cirrhosis four years ago and hasn't stopped drinking even though her symptoms are really bad and she often becomes psychotic when drinking. I have so many bad traumatic memories from my youth relating to my mom being drunk and not taking care of me properly and even today she mostly causes chaos in the family and is a burden in many ways. It feels so bad to say it but sometimes I feel like I don't even care anymore that she is going to die from alcoholism. I wonder how much she has left.
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cherrie3949
20 Nov 2019
I was diagnosed in 2008! Had TIPS procedure done! I’ve had no issues and have been extremely healthy for 11 years! During a hysterectomy a few years ago the doctor looked at my liver and said he saw no sign of disease! Two possible outcomes here... 1. God healed me... 2. Doctors were wrong!
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Maffey44
25 Dec 2019
There is no such thing as God curing cirrhosis. They may have jumped the gun? I was told I had cirrhosis before it was confirmed by an esophageal camera showing varices along with a liver fibrosis test. But it's not a good idea to comment that people may be able to pray away the illness. You drink with Hep C and the other things that cause cirrhosis and you're not getting cured by anyone or anything!
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Abowers2002
25 May 2018
I don't know if I have an answer to your question. I'm a mother with major liver probs I've told no one the extent. Yes from alcohol, u got depression from all lit of things at one time. Now I'm looking for any hope to help me want to fix my issues. All I keep reading is months with no hope at all. I SO wanna see my baby graduate and her success,thats all I want. I know I screwed up big but need someone to say yeah it's possible. My ex was alcoholic for many years, hence our divorce... I drank/drink half the time and I get liver disease. Is there a point in this? Please someone tell me a good outcome of this!
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CaylE
17 Aug 2018
Please get help, and do it for yourself. You are so much more then your disease, don't let it define you. I'm currently losing my mother, she's officially drank herself to death. I wouldn't wish this on anyone.
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JtAlmond
18 Feb 2018
I had to go to AA and the whole treatment kick back in the 80's and 90's. I got an eye full of sickly looking people and an ear full of stories about sick livers and such. The word was to never drink any alcohol in any form for life. The reason for that was alcohol would continue to damage leaving the poor unfortunate to die a slow miserable and painful death. They said they would die drunk and alone. I had a few relatives die from alcoholism. They died drunk. The key to surviving alcoholism is to not drink. It makes sense to stop doing something that is harmful doesn't it.?
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mikefaulds
6 Aug 2017
With that history and current lifestyle I would say that every day is a bonus. A dear friend of mine in her late 30's lasted 4 years drinking neat vodka. Your mother is one tough lady; she has made her path. Please don't walk it with her... it's too destructive .
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EmaDella95
17 July 2017
Hello, I have a similar situation. My mother was diagnosed in April, she is 45. I found out today she still drinks occasionally, arbor mist she says it's okay once and a while... she is also diabetic, obese, and heavily dependent on pain meds. She's had hypotonis c when I was in elementary school and has always been a heavy drinker ... so I really just want to know her chances of being around in December to see me graduate???
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Stephen Treloar
17 July 2017
Hi EmaDella, your moms prognosis is not good; hepatitis C, alcoholism and diabetes are an evil life shortening mixture. The pain medication is a real major issue if it contains Acetaminophen too. She needs to take dramatic action to prolong her life, but it is doable. My guess is she will see you graduate but you may associate forever graduation and your sick mom.
People call me heartless at times, I don't go to funerals. I always like to remember what someone was, not what they became.
Congratulations on your graduation in December. :-)
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Mavis1066
28 April 2017
is your mum still with us --
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Dayna Renfroe
17 Jan 2017
I lost my husband December 13th 2015 to cirrhosis. He became ill on December the 11th (throwing up blood) and it was something I would not wish on my worst enemy. It is a horrible way to die. I hope no one has to go through what I did. Please try to get her to stop drinking.
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Stephen Treloar
17 Jan 2017
After her sixth esophageal bleed, she has already beaten the odds twice over (the third is usually fatal). People really have to stop drinking before it gets too serious. In probably the only sensible decision in my adult life, just quit cold turkey when I was given 2.5 years to live, qualified for the transplant list and now I'm relatively healthy again and won't need a liver unless I get Liver cancer and that's just a six monthly ultrasound and a blood test (my tumour markers are way down).
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whisper to me
22 Feb 2017
i feel so alone my husband has cirrosis and still drinks he hepatic encephalopathy he like jekhl and hyde nice one day nasty the next is it true when they start bringing up blood how long
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angien036
26 March 2017
my brother is 44, he has stage 4 cirrhosis. he is still drinking everyday (as far as I know)they have just sent in hospice. Is there anything left to try? to do?
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Kalcantar
14 Sep 2017
Oh I'm so sorry
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stacybx2
17 Sep 2017
I am so glad I found this site my hubbie has cirrhosis his mood swings are terrible at times then hes as sweet as can be his feet and ankels are so swollen he can hardly walk ,he hardly eats, he can't sleep at night but can sleep all day he had a spell about a year ago that every time he went to the bathroom there would be a lot of bloods big clots and sometimes when he peed he had blood in it. he looks a little yellow to me ,i'm scared to death that this might be the last time I see him can anyone tell me what to watch out for so I can prepare any info would help thanks stacybx2
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Stephen Treloar
18 Sep 2017
Hi Dayna, he really needs to see a doctor for blood work (to see where his liver function is) and get diuretics for his fluid retention. Blood in his urine is not a good sign and the first time I have heard of this in a liver failure question. It is especially important that he does not drink at all. The yellow complexion is a really bad sign that his liver just is not coping at all.
Wow! I had no idea how common this is! I'm 21 and my mother is 38, currently at stage 4 cirrhosis of the liver. For the past probably 3 years she's become quite ill with a lot of pain due to drinking.
I recently got back from visiting her (lives in another state) after she bled out to 20% of her blood left due to the liver disease (this is about the 6th bleed)! I hadn't seen her in about 18 months because of her drinking issue, I was shocked to see that she was practically skin and bones with a huge "pregnant looking" belly, yellow, massive swollen purple legs (due to the fluid) and she probably looks about 60 now! Her mind is deteriorating, she's no longer the mum I once knew ! She's been drinking for as long as I can remember, it's the only reason we never held a good relationship! I feel for anyone else going through this, it's so hard, especially when all you want is just a loving/caring mum! Sometimes you just can't help people that don't want the help! We are going to lose our mum any day now and there isn't a thing anyone can do about it.. just a waiting game to clean up another mess of hers.
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Geraldineggg123
3 March 2019
I really feel guilty that I put my family right in the middle of my sickness. I found out I had cirrhosis in 2013 continued to drink untill i ended up in the hospital getting an emergency tips. I quit drinking that day and have been sober for three years. Being sober has helped me to realize I did this. Not just to myself but to my children, grandchildren and more. I will pray for all of you that you will be at peace. Please remember you didn't cause this and you can't cure it. We were selfish and let alcoholism blind us from what is really important to us. You all. Our children and anyone else we love. Some of us hit our knees and some are still in so much pain they hit the bottle. Please forgive and be at peace.
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CONCERNED_daughter25
12 Nov 2016
I am going through the exact thing. Im 42. My mom has been drinking since i was 4. She was diagnosed about a year ago with stage 4 cirrhosis. Almost died. Sobered up for a month and last night i caught her drinking. She is up visiting me right now for a few days. I dont know how to feel or really what to do. I told her i love her. What else can i do? She chose to die instead of live. Help my heart. Thank you
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Stephen Treloar
6 Jan 2017
Get rid of, lock up any liquor in the house. As an alcoholic (who is sober), that after 3.5 years, I cannot have alcohol in my house at all. Friends are welcome to BYO but have to understand that everything gets taken with them when they leave and that an offer of a drink gets them unwelcome forever. Tell your mom it's because you love her when you tip her alcohol down the sink. Your house, your rules. Try to keep some happy memories with you and don't dwell on the many bad times. Take care.
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Stephen Treloar
18 May 2014
If you were to ask a Hepatologist/Gastroenterologist, given the little information provided; 'how long?'. Given the presence of advanced cirrhosis, jaundice and ascites? Less than 2 years most likely (I'm not sure why she is still here except that everyone is different).
Giving up drinking and getting medical advice/attention is her only hope of life extension as she will never qualify for a transplant (6 months of abstinence is a normal requirement for listing). Maybe diuretics for the ascites and a short course of cortico steroids would extend her life possibly but the drinking has to go or it (death) will be sooner rather than later.
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Jenmcdan
27 Nov 2014
May I ask a specialist this-my brother surfaces from the streets with all the sx of stage 4-jaundice, ascites, bleeding "ulcers", encephalopathy. Other comorbidities too. Given mild palliative treatment how long will he live?
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Lisadarkwing
9 Jan 2019
This comment is based on the fact that I've been down the road with ascites,paranthesis, end stage cirrhosis,spontaneous peritinitis,mental changes,high protein diet and at that juncture my brother was recovering in an obvious way.So YES from what I've seen taking care of my brother during his treatments his 6 meds he got better.But then fell off the wagon and left rehab after only 2 days,his disease was stable.But now he's bleeding from his throat,stomach and other gi.The patient must quit drinking.My brother is homeless goes to the hospital like a revolving door.They give him blood put a shunt in his neck,"TIPS"and around he goes.He's as sick as you can be and still be at large.So in answer to the question I think there is a lot of options and hope for living for the person with those listed symptoms.
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slippersong
3 March 2013
First of all, I am sorry. This is a really crappy situation to be in - watching your mother basically kill herself. I say that because I lost my mother three days ago. She was 48, and she died of cirrhosis. She was diagnosed two years ago, was basically brought back to life by her doctors, and was released. She attempted AA for maybe a month, and swore she wasn't drinking to the end. Then the coroner called and said they found eight empty bottles of vodka by her bed. Share my story with her. Share the other stories you are hearing here, and all over the internet, because the previous poster was right- you don't have any idea what time you have left. Make end of life plans, tell her you love her. I thought I would have my mother for years, but she thought differently. The liver is not meant to withstand that kind of heavy drinking, which is what causes liver failure to begin with...
if it's already that damaged, its just a matter of when, there is no if if she is still drinking. She's already had longer than my mother of the same condition. Good luck, you are not alone.
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endlessPred
1 March 2013
My mom was the same. Continuous heavy drinking and smoking heavily. She had given up on life. How long? Sooner than you think. Now is the time for you to start your grieving. Acknowledge her sad deficiencies to your self. Thank her for giving you life. Be ready to take her to the hospital when she is vomiting and in great pain. Stay strong and remember it is her disease not yours. Find a rehab center to put her in for her last days. Now is the time. I found it too hard under pressure by the doctor. If you have sibs, get together and discuss. Have her sign a power of attorney and a living will. That way you know if she wants machines or not, same with family to know and agree. Ask her if cremated or buried and where the remains go.
Yes, this is sad and real. It has nothing to do with you. No guilt or fault lies upon you, no matter what you were told all those years before now. You are strong and capable. My prayers go with you. Yes, I know this well. Karen
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CONCERNED_daughter25
12 Nov 2016
I love this post. Thank you. My mom asked me not to tell anyone. She is drinking. I have an older brother who i am so close to. I havent told him. Should i?
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Stephen Treloar
17 Jan 2017
Yes, you should tell him.
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Bennington
30 Dec 2017
My dad is 91. Just went to hospital. Legs swollen, coughing some blood and blood in stools. Is this close to the end? He has drank for most of my life and continues with wine. Little appetite, confusion coming on quickly. Is there help?
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Stephen Treloar
31 Dec 2017
Hi Karen, if he made an effort his quality of life would be vastly improved. The confusion is called encephalopathy and is caused by high blood ammonia levels which can be treated. The blood that he coughs up is from bleeding in his esophagus and the blood in his stools is from bleeding further down the gastro intestinal tract and may or may not be treatable. The biggest issue is trying to get a 91 year old to comply with a healthy lifestyle that he is unused to.
No one can tell you how long, but I can tell you she is significantly shortening the time she has. Sometimes the color of urine and stool is a problem that helps you know what's going on in this situation. Urine would be very dark and her stool would become light in color.
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loukazoo
22 Feb 2015
So sorry to hear that story... I question myself at times on how long for me ? I'm between stages 3/4 and just started the Harvoni. I have not drank since 2009. I'm still a smoker though about 10 cigarettes a day sometimes less. My urine is normal color, no retaining of water. I wonder if the Harvoni works and I'm cured, how will it help the liver ?
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MA_Andrea
23 July 2015
Her days our definately numbered. I am not sure how long my Mother had Cirhosis but when she finally went in because the stomach pain was so bad, she lived 3 months. It is horrible, and a painful way to go. Just spend as much time with her as you can.