Hi, for the last few weeks, I've been using an alcohol free fluoride mouth rinse. I don't have cavities, root or gum problems. My teeth and gums weren't sensitive, and I haven't changed any medications. I missed a couple of days and my teeth and mouth felt better. I'm doing what the directions say-combined with directions from my doctor. I was eating icy sherbet and drinking hot drinks and soups. My dentist won't be back until 2 weeks from now. I tried to call Crest- mouth wash, but I was on hold for about an hour, then was disconnected. I use a very soft tooth brush. Does anybody have any ideas?
Does anybody know why fluoride mouth wash hurts my teeth?
Question posted by meyati on 28 Dec 2012
Last updated on 29 December 2012
Added 28 Dec 2012:
I just found out that fluoride is used to control hyperthyroid. They think it's a factor in what they call a hypothyroid epidemic. I saw this in about dot com thyroid. Maybe this is one of the reasons that people get so tired from radiation-if they use fluoride as prescribed-their thyroid slows down. Fluoride also makes for brittle bones and tooth decay.
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Inactive
28 Dec 2012
Meyati! Got cha! I thought you were talking about the MedPage! Just reread all the answers. Anyway, I agree about the gums receding & the nerves hurting. I have been going through that after all the antibiotics I have been taking the past 6 months. Had to cancel my 6 month cleaning because I can't even stand to touch my teeth with my fingernail. Well, not all of them, but most are sore from the antibiotics.. They take all the good bacteria out of your system too. It's kind of expensive, but drugstores carry a probiotic that my gastro has me on called Florastor. It gets the yeast back in you. It has helped tremedously. Quit the mouthwash! My dentist told me that you are doing nothing with mouthwash that water won't do, plus you kill the good bacteria too. Sensodyne should be put on a clean finger & gently rubed in not brushed with. Use your favorite toothpaste, mine is Close-up, rinse with cool, not cold water, & put a dab of sensodyne (they have it at the Dollar stores for a buck, but not name brand & does the same thing)on your clean finger & rub it around the base of your tooth or teeth. You can do this anytime it's uncomfortable. Every hour if you jave to, but get that probiotic too. Let me know if this helps. You have been on antibiotics haven't you... Mary
meyati
28 Dec 2012
I was told to do this for radiation and to use a fluoride toothpaste also and brush about 3-4 X a day. They tell that to a person that gets radiation treatment on the lungs, etc. nowhere near the mouth. Some people get dry mouth so bad that mouth drool is like strings- and that's with stomach or prostrate radiation-and mine is the nose, where everything is taking a direct hit. Lots of tooth decay in radiation for cancer patients is caused by dry mouth. Then because of the surgery-it hurts to close my mouth, and I seem to have breathing problems in my nose, which makes it worse. My nose doesn't drain correctly, it sorts of seeps down and plugs up. Dr. Garg says that's natural, when a nostril is made much smaller. I'm chewing sugar free gum non-stop to help prevent dry mouth
endlessPred
28 Dec 2012
Xylitol in gum is the same as birch sugar. The sugar, though, is done six or seven times a day and accomplishes the same thing. One pound from my dentist is ten dollars and lasts a very long time. Cheaper than gum and not all that chewing which tires and hurts my jaws.
Other sweetners do not help, although it does make the mouth make saliva.
Also, if you have thrush, very common with anti biotics, prednisone, etc., be sure to get it treated. It also causes soreness in the mouth, tongue, gums and throat. Can't see it in the deeper throat but docs can. This is yeast gone wild.
meyati
28 Dec 2012
Thanks, but I'm supposed to chew gum, and open and close my mouth 20 times, 4 times a day. Anybody that gets head radiation is told to do that from the very beginning, because the radiation seems to freeze the jaw joints, where later a person has trouble eating and talking. The doctor says that if a patient waits until they have problems, then their jaw never really recovers, and they also suffer unnecessary chronic pain. Another part of this is that I have healthy gums and teeth. Chewing gum also keeps circulation going in my gums and mouth. Since radiation burns little blood veins up, I need to keep my mouth flapping all of the time, for as long as I can. Fluoride is the only thing that hurts my mouth.
Inactive
28 Dec 2012
Interesting. How about getting a fluride treatment from your dentist. It only takes about 5 to 10 minutes or would that not last long enough? I would talk to your dentist about it too. He might have some better ideas... Mary
endlessPred
28 Dec 2012
You have a good system Meyati. I did say that it hurts my mouth muscles to chew like that. May be helpful to others where that is an issue. Chewing gum sounds like more fun than lifting weights. Ha-ha. Take care. Dentist will help. Oh, and I take extra folic acid to reduce mouth soreness from dry mouth. Doctor suggested it. Then my sister was also told to take it as well for her mouth. Add three to five per day if you aren't doing so now. Hang in there.
meyati
28 Dec 2012
I talked to my dentist the day after I decided on radiation-set up appointments during the radiation treatments. I've known my dentist since he was a 14 year old brat on a dirt bike. Like my tetanus shots, I'm up on my fluoride, teething cleaning everything. He also works with cancer patients-some for only the cost of materials. I'm using products that are recommended by my dentist, doctor, and the ACS. The doctor even gave me cancer radiation skin care samples and coupons. It's just that my dentist is gone--he goes to a homeless shelter and does dental care for homeless people at least once a week. He does the teeth cleaning and fluoride, so he can spend quality time with his patients. He also likes to kick back in Sicily with his family. He's considered one of the best dentists in the region, and has a waiting list of patients that want to be his patients.
sara12345
29 Dec 2012
Meyati, My doctor prescribed Salagen for me since my throat and mouth were sticking to itself at night from excessive dryness due to my medications. Salagen is used to treat symptoms of dry mouth from saliva gland damage due to RADIATION treatments of the head/neck for cancer. Should you look into it?
meyati
29 Dec 2012
Yes--- Thanks if the regular stuff doesn't work- then I'll get a script for it.
endlessPred
28 Dec 2012
Gums recede as we age. This exposes the dentin. I also have this problem.
I use sensadyne which does help. The dentist also gave me a prescription toothpaste which helps. I found that using birch sugar at 1/4 teaspoon that melts in the mouth. Then brush as before you swallow.
It is pretty painful to have this area cleaned and your dentist will have a protocol depending upon the call. If gingivitis, it can be remedied.
sara12345
28 Dec 2012
I bought Sensadyne toothpaste which irritated my gums fiercely compared to the original Crest toothpaste that I use. I had to throw out the Sensadyne.
Inactive
28 Dec 2012
Sara, read my answer to Meyati. You don't have to brush with it, just put it on after you brush with your favorite toothpaste... Mary
meyati
29 Dec 2012
I have to brush to keep sugar and acids off of my teeth during the night-that's why they tell me to brush my teeth at least 4 times a day.
sara12345
29 Dec 2012
Thanks Mary for the tip. It seems unbelievable that putting some in my mouth wouldn't also hurt a lot. I used it when I needed to whiten my teeth before getting fitted for a new crown which caused mouth discomfort.
Inactive
29 Dec 2012
Works great that way, & was suggested by my dentist... Mary
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