4 nerves in my back burnt, still pain?

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HELLO EVERYONE,

I have had back problems since my 20s, im in my 40s now,,, 2 years ago i finally found a good dr. who understood for the most part how much pain ive been in,, he put me on some strong pain meds and just recently burnt 4 nerves on my lft side of my lower back and is gonna this week do 4 more on the rght side. my ? is why do i seem to be having more pain attacks in my lower back? I honestly dont get it,, im on fetynal 75 mgs every 72 hours and oxycodone 3 xs a day,, but the pain gets so bad still it makes me disabling.
I do have a xtra vertabrae, and a extra piece of bone growing in my lower back on top of arthritis.
I dont know if i need my meds stronger or what is going on,,, my dr sd burning the nerves and with the pain meds it should help alleviate most of the pain... for the most part it does,,, BUT when the pain suddenly comes on w/out warning i wanna just die,,, i get sick, i can barely walk,,, and it just seems like when he burnt the 4 nerves it did absouletly nothing. any suggestions? also i have been on pain meds for 2 years,,, how will they take me off,,, im afraid of withdrawls.
can someone help me answer thease ?s,,, I would greatly appreciate any comments, suggestions,,, but pls no badgering about the fetynal patch,,, I already know im addicted , hell who wouldnt be after 2 years of being on them and pain meds. thats why i wonder whats gonna happen when they take me off the meds.
thanks, KIMMYO

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I have similar question. Went through the two  pain relief  injection trials, worked fantastic. Had the "burn" done in the thoracic 10, 11, 12 zone, just like heck day 1. It has been 1 week to the day and no relief. Understood results would be a day or two. Have spondylosis (arthritis of spine). I don't take opioids. Pain is making me sick to my stomach. I can't wait 6 to 8 weeks...

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I just got nerves burned in my lower back on the right side on Wednesday. Go back to Dr in three weeks. Will have burns done on left side in a few weeks. What I need to know has anyone had instant relief? i still have a lot of pain a few days later, how long does the pain usually last after the burning? i am worried it hasn't helped. Dr said it would take 6 to 8 weeks to heal, will it stop hurting then? I am worried about this. Please let me know if any of you has had this problem?

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this is just a thought maybe the doctor would give you something for inflammation such as Ibuprofen, Celebrex, these are meds for pain but for a back arthritic type pain that might just work, also you could always try Naproxen (by prescription either 375mg pr 500mg) these are not habit forming but work on back muscles, I used Lidoderm it's a numbing patch that numbs nerves etc maybe a course of it might help these are all just suggestions but I know what its like to have back and shoulder pain the strong  opiates  won't stop, maybe one of these will be of help I sure hope so

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might some type of surgery help your back?i have had four three in the last 6 months and to some degree they have helped .but i was told when i had my 1st surgery ,that i would be on strong  pain meds  the rest of my life !and i too am on the fentanylpatch and get 15 mg's of OxyContin 4 times a day !and i still hurt !some days !!but doctors will get you as close to being pain free as possible if they're any good that is!!im luck my pm works with me and really wants to know if what i'm getting help control most of the pain!this month i can honestly say nope not this time and carly (doc)will try something else until we get it right!wishing you the best of luck & God bless

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I hope you are feeling better to some degree. Tapering is the best way to avoid some withdrawals. I do not know if you have work or anything but there is always detox too with trained professionals. I am afraid too because I just re injured myself Tuesday and had to take what little vicodin i had. They said take two a day and I had to do more because I was stuck in bed and puking I hurt so bad and couldn't sleep from the pain level. I am missing class today because I can hardly walk. I am afraid to ask the doc today to switch me to percocet which I first took from another dr when I was hurt. I can take it less often and it doesn't constipate me. I hope you asked your doctor everything you needed and got the answers you were looking for. It hurts to have  back pain  and yours seems pretty bad.

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He obviously didn't get the right nerves and this option is really something that good doctors don't offer because they know the nerve endings do grow back. I question doctors who believe in doing this and other procedures that are knowingly not helpful in the long run.
I won't get on you at all for what you have been put on as I'm sure you know the dangers of this and any pain medications. I do believe there are many safer strong pain meds that could work better for you than that patch that would be in a pill form and even though every pain medications come with side effects and dangers, in the long run switching to something else would be the safest option for you.

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Don't feel that you are an addict because you've had to be on pain meds for 2yrs or more. You are dependent because of chronic pain. It sounds like you have the same fears I do which keeps us from becoming addicts and taking our medications very carefully.
Unfortunately I have had to take pain medications for over 11yrs now. Before the injury that caused RSD; a disease of the nerves that spreads with no cure, I've remained on the same dose of my strong pain med for 9 of over 11yrs and it still helps me as I never used any pain meds other than a couple of root canals before this and never took all of them when I would get a script so I always had the respect of fear of them and realized that I had to learn to live with some pain that no pain medication could ever take away after RSD.
If you were to go off of this patch, even though you are truly dependent you would withdrawal just like an addict as I found out last year when I purposely tried to live without the stronger pain med for over 3mos going off of all of it cold turkey except for the Percocet, refusing to take them back until I realized that after the detox was over that my pain was so out of control and how bad my RSD has gotten over the years.
Since going through detox my blood pressure has gone up even still after going back on my meds last November along with weight gain and even spreading or noticing that RSD had spread into other areas of my body.
I don't regret going through the detox after all these years on pain meds although it was the worst experience of my life while detoxing but there was no cutting back (which now I realize that I could have went into seizures) as I should have had my doctor give me something to help with the withdrawal period. That was stupid on my part but I was also going to a pain clinic that just didn't care about their patients.
It made me realize that I am only dependent due to how bad my disease has progressed and how bad the pain really is.
Because I am allergic to almost every pain medication on the market I do feel that since I have really no options to change what I am on that by detoxing it could have given me possibly years to remain on this same dose as long as the disease doesn't go full body or starts to spread even worse.
I have heard stories of some people going off of pain medications after long term use to find that their brains rewire and the pain lessons due to our brains natural response to pain through endorphins.
There is no right answer but I thought I would at least tell you my experience as we are all so different in not only the pain we feel but how medications work for one but not another as well as if you feel that you will be in pain for life, I know like me you want to remain on the lowest doses possible to get adequate pain relief and truly you wish you didn't have to take them at all; I hate them.

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the dr just did steroid injections in my lower back. he said burning the nerves would be a last resort. but i feel the same as you. it didnt help. if anything it hurts worse. he lowered my pain meds from 10mgs that i've been on for over a year, to 7.5s, which dont help at all. i told him that the 10mgs dont work as well as they once did and then he dropped me lower??? what is wrong with this guy? i hate my dr. he thinks all of my pain is due to arthritis but i have other problems going on also. he doesnt think its likely for my other problems to cause the amount of pain im having. i think if there is just a little chance of it being something else, he should look into it. im sorry you are going through this horrible pain. i totally understand what you are going thru. be honest with your dr. tell him it didnt work. tell him it did more harm than good. i doubt he will take you off of your pain meds if you are still in pain.

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i know someone that had her nerves burnt and she is in very little to no pain. she still told the dr it didnt work just so he wouldnt take her meds because she and her husband are addicted to them. some ppl just give us back pain sufferers a bad name! honesty is the best policy! i hope you find a treatment that works. you'll be in my prayers tonight.

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When a doctor cauterizes nerves it kind a hit and miss situation. If you get relief then he got the right ones. The problem is that in about 3 months the nerves grows back. Radio Frequency Ablation is not a permanent fix. As far as getting off the drugs, when the time comes your doctor will have to taper you off very slowly to avoid intense withdrawal. You will no doubt have an extended period in which you are not feeling well after that. There are other medications that can help you at that point. Please question your doctor more and don't stop till you are satisfied with his answers. It saddens me to see people like you with serious medical problems looking to strangers for help.
Don't let that discourage you, we are caring people and it does help to hear what others have to say. Good Luck and God Bless. Keep us posted.

4 nerves in my back burnt, still pain?

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